Johnny Depp’s acting career may be remembered most for the whimsical and fantastical roles via his Tim Burton partnership, but he’s taken turns as three violent gangsters, as well. That’s where we turn our steely gaze this week. The Whitey Bulger biopic “Black Mass” hit theaters this month, Depp portrayed an elusive John Dillinger in 2009’s “Public Enemies,” and 1997’s “Donnie Brasco” is an underrated mob movie.

Noah and Chance are joined on this week’s podcast by film scholar and writer Murray Pomerance, who wrote the book “Johnny Depp Starts Here.”