Oh, dads! They love things like the great outdoors and mansplaining political movements. But where does one draw the line between normal dad and egomaniac, survivalist dad? Does your father rant about consumerism or the coming nuclear holocaust? Does he ship your family off to the jungle to act out a colonialist fantasy? On this episode of Be Reel, Chance and Noah look at movies about wild dads and their wild dad ways. From Harrison Ford in The Mosquito Coast to Viggo Mortensen in Captain Fantastic to Ben Foster in the recently released Leave No Trace, the guys break down how this off-the-grid genre portrays, glorifies, damns and justifies fathers with a dream of a simpler life.

At the 20-minute mark, filmmaker Debra Granik (Winter’s Bone, Stray Dog) joins us to discuss her new film Leave No Trace. She talks with Chance about portraying the Pacific Northwest’s local flavor, rendering a creeping sense of fear on film, and what it means to take only what you need in America.